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bubbler
30th July 2007, 13:49
Has anyone been to Vegas and done one of these to the Grand Canyon? I fancy the works so want to see Hoover Dam etc; land on the Canyon floor and perhaps have a boat ride etc.

I am not sure whether to book directly with Virgin or when I get there. There seems so many tour companies to choose and the Virgin prices seems fairly competitive so I wonder if it's easier to go with who they recommend.

Anyone have any suggestions?

colman
30th July 2007, 13:53
its cheaper i think to book when you get there....we went 4 years ago and stayed at the aladdin. we went for 5 nights and did everything....we did a tour which took us to hoover dam and then the helicopter ride over the canyon which was just amazing...cant remember how much we paid for the trip i know we booked it from the hotel and i think it might have been around ?180 for the two of us....defiantely worth going to see - you can't go all that way and not go...although i have a friend who did just that!!!!!

p.s - make sure you go for all you can eat lunch at the Bellagio - i think we had to book....they had lobster and languistines and every type of food you could ever want from all different cultures and you can eat as much as you like. I think we paid about $30 and it was worth every plateful!!!

bubbler
30th July 2007, 14:10
its cheaper i think to book when you get there....we went 4 years ago and stayed at the aladdin. we went for 5 nights and did everything....we did a tour which took us to hoover dam and then the helicopter ride over the canyon which was just amazing...cant remember how much we paid for the trip i know we booked it from the hotel and i think it might have been around ?180 for the two of us....defiantely worth going to see - you can't go all that way and not go...although i have a friend who did just that!!!!!

p.s - make sure you go for all you can eat lunch at the Bellagio - i think we had to book....they had lobster and languistines and every type of food you could ever want from all different cultures and you can eat as much as you like. I think we paid about $30 and it was worth every plateful!!!

Won't let me rep you!

Thanks for the info: I've been googlilng helicopter tour companies and there's a mind boggling array.

Lunch at the Bellagio sounds great! We're hoping to book the Venetian to stay in and I can't wait!!!

huntsu1
30th July 2007, 14:11
:)My son and I went at the end of April this year, was not sure what to expect as probably would not have chosen LV as a destination but my son (18) is off to Univ in September doing a degree in Lighting (always been mad on theatre) He wrote to the lighting designed at 'Celine Dion' and was invited to go backstage and spend some time with the designer himself. Obviously too young to go on his own so I had to go as well, we booked to see a two cirque shows (Ka and Mystere) and also got very good seats for Celine.

Booked helipcopter trip in the UK 'Grand celebration tour' with Papillion, what can I say, fantastic, picked up from our hotel (MGM Grand) by limo and then helipcopter over Hoover Dam to the Canyon - landed and had lunch and then back to LV flying down the stip on the way back - amazing, I am hooked know and trying to convince hubby he would love it!

colman
30th July 2007, 14:11
we spent a day getting a cab from hotel to hotel to see what they were like...we wished we had stayed in the Venetian - its beautiful - you'll really love it....

bubbler
30th July 2007, 14:14
we spent a day getting a cab from hotel to hotel to see what they were like...we wished we had stayed in the Venetian - its beautiful - you'll really love it....

It looks gorgeous! Fingers crossed Mr T delivers my deals vouchers ASAP as I want to book it this week :)

karen007
30th July 2007, 14:30
Agree with everyone re how brill flying over the Grand Canyon is - we went in a little light aircraft (about an 8 seater). Flew over the Hoover Dam & on over the Canyon. Landed there & had fabulous views from the Rim. What a contrast to Vegas! Hope you have a wonderful time - I know you will. re the all you can eat buffets - wow the Americans sure know how to do this well :D

maemaesmummy
30th July 2007, 14:35
The venetian is a fab hotel all the rooms are suites and huge... the shops inside are great and the gondola ride cheesy... but thats Vegas!!!

Would reccomend a visit to Wynns and of course the Bellagio... would also reccomend a trip to Green Valley Ranch (off strip) its less vegasy than the others but really, really nice and the locals use it ... If you have a car then would reccomend a drive out there.

When are you looking to go? Would second the opinion re booking the helicopter when you are there possibly use the concierge in the hotel they can get good deals and are well worth a tip as they look after you.

Our friend is a concierge at The orleans Hotel and he gets good deals from the tour ops which he then gets for the guests.. also keeping the concierge sweet means lots of vouchers for free drinks at the bar and top seats at shows etc... we have seen several acts now been ushered in at the last minute and taken straight to the front and not paid a penny.. unfortunately as he works off strip they dont get the big names but its entertainment and "Vegas Baby!!!"

If I can help with anything else please let me know we usually go a few times a year to visit friends and family and know the area quite well...

bubbler
30th July 2007, 17:04
The venetian is a fab hotel all the rooms are suites and huge... the shops inside are great and the gondola ride cheesy... but thats Vegas!!!

Would reccomend a visit to Wynns and of course the Bellagio... would also reccomend a trip to Green Valley Ranch (off strip) its less vegasy than the others but really, really nice and the locals use it ... If you have a car then would reccomend a drive out there.

When are you looking to go? Would second the opinion re booking the helicopter when you are there possibly use the concierge in the hotel they can get good deals and are well worth a tip as they look after you.

Our friend is a concierge at The orleans Hotel and he gets good deals from the tour ops which he then gets for the guests.. also keeping the concierge sweet means lots of vouchers for free drinks at the bar and top seats at shows etc... we have seen several acts now been ushered in at the last minute and taken straight to the front and not paid a penny.. unfortunately as he works off strip they dont get the big names but its entertainment and "Vegas Baby!!!"

If I can help with anything else please let me know we usually go a few times a year to visit friends and family and know the area quite well...


Thanks for the offer of help. We're hoping to go in November. Want to do some shopping for Christmas and just chill out and see the sights. Particularly want to do the helicopter trip and see Love at the Mirage as I love Cirque du Soleil.

Any more tips would be very much appreciated!

JANED9388
30th July 2007, 18:20
we also used pappilon for the heli trip, got champagne breakfast on the bottom of the canyon - it was excellent.

Would also recommend emerils (US TV chef) resturant in MGM if you like seafood. Taster menu - 8 courses for about ?35 per head. It's great.

matteas
30th July 2007, 19:51
Wait till you are there, you will be able to get the helicopter flight for 1/2 price.

yep 1/2 price.

When you get to vegas you need to get each of the local magazines, equivalent to whats on etc over here. I can't remember their names but you can find out by visiting lasvegas.com etc.

Each of these magazines has money off coupons that can save you hundreds of dollars for almost everything apart from the very top shows.

I have been to Vegas 5 times and love the place.

I hertily recommend the helicopter flight to the Grand Canyon, I had a blast when I went and a champagne lunch at the bottom. It is so much better than the plane flight and under no circumstance take the bus........... way too long a drive.

Matteas

bubbler
31st July 2007, 17:40
Ok, so it's booked. Couldn't get the Venetian as Virgin's brochure misprinted the prices massively!

So we're going to the Luxor as I like the whole quirky Egyptian thing. 7 nights booked 16th November! We were going next year but the brochure that is out for next year shows the prices going up a fair bit so we're going to bite the bullet and go early for my OHs 40th:D

Seriously chuffed!

Raffles
31st July 2007, 18:46
If you want Cirque tickets, book them NOW online. The big Vegas shows are always sold out, with spare tickets held back for any high rollers in town or guests at the casino that hosts the show.

Heli - I've done it, and its great. I was in Vegas on my own, and so got to sit at the front next to the pilot! It cost a couple of hundred pounds 3 years ago, booked locally. It was the first time I'd been in a helicopter as well.

To fill 7 days, make sure you take day trips north to Yosemite National Park and south to Death Valley. Fantastic drive if you've never done it - you'll find that you the only car on a road which runs dead straight across the deser directly to the horizon. You'll probably also have time to drive out to the Grand Canyon as well.

matteas
31st July 2007, 20:15
I like the Luxor its been my favourite hotel so far.

Also Raffles is right about the top shows, they do sell out early. If you know what you want to see , its worth booking early so you can be sure you get seats.

I can heartily recommend all the Cirque du soleil shows, and Blue man group. I am not a big fan of the magic shows, loved Mamma Mia, hated splash.

Best show in Vegas is Free which is the Bellagio fountains, and it will take you a week just visting all the hotels which you have to see because most are so outrageous.

have fun.

maemaesmummy
31st July 2007, 20:59
me again... November is a good time to go not so hot in fact quite cool so take a jumper.. will you be there for Thnaksgiving?

Have been racking my brains and would suggest a drive to Red Rock Canyon only a few miles outta town and fantastic.. an early morning drive round is awesome... I think someone has mentioned Yosemite and Death Valley they are both quite a trek and on a first visit theres plenty to see and do in and around town.

The Luxor is nice albeit down the far end of the strip (although with the current building work it will probably end up around the middle!!)

We have stayed in several of the hotels (we stay with friends but usually do at least 1 night in a hotel a trip just to see whats going on!)

If you have a car then a drive to The Hoover Dam is cool and very interesting. Would also reccomend a trip to LVMS (speedway) its a banked high speed oval track used for Nascar and Indy Car you can do a ride along in a twin seater indy car for around $99 which considering the nearest we have here is in a Formula 1 car which costs around ?4k then its money well spent. And you get photos suited and booted .. who needs Speed The Ride at The Sahara...

If you have a head for heights do the rides atop the Stratosphere... mad but wow!!!

Seriously if you need any help let me know cause I could waffle for England on LV..

Oh yes there is a 1/2 ticket booth down near The Coca Cola Shop/M&Ms shop (like the ones in NY and Boston) now so you can get cheaper tickets for that days shows.. never the biggest shows but we have had them for Blue Man Group (well worth it) Mama Mia (if you like Abba) and Amazing Jonathon..Ok ish. Also see whos in concert (not the long termers like Elton/Barry/Celine) but we have seen Tom Jones, Dido and Britney whilst over there. I havent seen Barry or Elton yet but the Celine Dion is good and staged by Dragon of Cirque fame and she does the doo...

Anyway before I bore you anymore... and you shout:help:

bubbler
31st July 2007, 22:18
me again... November is a good time to go not so hot in fact quite cool so take a jumper.. will you be there for Thnaksgiving?

Have been racking my brains and would suggest a drive to Red Rock Canyon only a few miles outta town and fantastic.. an early morning drive round is awesome... I think someone has mentioned Yosemite and Death Valley they are both quite a trek and on a first visit theres plenty to see and do in and around town.

The Luxor is nice albeit down the far end of the strip (although with the current building work it will probably end up around the middle!!)

We have stayed in several of the hotels (we stay with friends but usually do at least 1 night in a hotel a trip just to see whats going on!)

If you have a car then a drive to The Hoover Dam is cool and very interesting. Would also reccomend a trip to LVMS (speedway) its a banked high speed oval track used for Nascar and Indy Car you can do a ride along in a twin seater indy car for around $99 which considering the nearest we have here is in a Formula 1 car which costs around ?4k then its money well spent. And you get photos suited and booted .. who needs Speed The Ride at The Sahara...

If you have a head for heights do the rides atop the Stratosphere... mad but wow!!!

Seriously if you need any help let me know cause I could waffle for England on LV..

Oh yes there is a 1/2 ticket booth down near The Coca Cola Shop/M&Ms shop (like the ones in NY and Boston) now so you can get cheaper tickets for that days shows.. never the biggest shows but we have had them for Blue Man Group (well worth it) Mama Mia (if you like Abba) and Amazing Jonathon..Ok ish. Also see whos in concert (not the long termers like Elton/Barry/Celine) but we have seen Tom Jones, Dido and Britney whilst over there. I havent seen Barry or Elton yet but the Celine Dion is good and staged by Dragon of Cirque fame and she does the doo...

Anyway before I bore you anymore... and you shout:help:


You're not boring me!!

This is going to sound like a daft question, but......how long is the strip?

Do cabs cost a lot if we want to take to and from the airport etc?

Where is best for shopping (that's vitally important as I am going to do Christmas shopping when I am out there!)?

We want to hire a car for a few days and Dollar have a depot in the hotel so I can pre-book it (seems cheaper to do that). Would driving to the Grand Canyon be feasible as it seems a couple of hundred miles?

Sorry to ask so much but seeing as you are a regular visitor I thought I'd pick your brains!

Ooh, one more thing: do any of these hotels have indoor pools or should I forget about swimming in November?!

sunflower
1st August 2007, 00:53
I was in Vegas last week, had four nights there during a 16 day trip to arizona, utah, nevada and california.
As already mentioned red rock canyon is only a 30 minute drive out of the city - well worth the drive - only $5 per car entrance - bargain. Also the drive to Hoover Dam is a good day trip from Vegas.
This trip we went to Zion canyon, about a 3 hour drive north of Vegas - smaller but equally impressive. Entrance is only $25 per car.
I have been in November before for DH birthday, as already mentioned it can get quite chilly at the canyon, when we were there they had snow. (snow in canyon - not vegas)
Taxi fare depends where you are on the strip - Luxor that you have booked is one of the closest to the airport - should not cost much more than $12.

Do not bother with the monorail - very overpriced and it is quite a hike to the stations - all at the back of the hotels.

The free shows that quite a few of the hotels hold are very good. we also enjoy Freemont Street (old las vegas) which is off the strip - need to get a taxi. We had a car this year and amazingly parking is free at the big hotels on the strip.
I agree about booking shows in advance if there is something specific you want to see. Alternatively there is a booking office opposite the Monte Carlo which sells tickets on the day - at quite reduced prices.

Enjoy your trip

maemaesmummy
1st August 2007, 07:02
Been thinking and I cannot think of an indoors pool they all seem to be outdoors but I could be wrong.. we have been in late November and I think the nearest we got to swimming was tipping toes in the poolafter a hard days shopping! Our friends looked horrified as we removed the covers from the pool!

The canyon is quite a long drive and really wouldnt do in 1 day.. if gonna do it book a night at a hotel there...we drove Palm Springs to LV and it took around 5 hours I think it about 250miles..We have never driven but did a flight from LV to the Canyon with Scenic Air with the heavy air currents I was soo air sick (never been before) I would reccommend taking motion sickness pills before hand just in case.

In my early days of USA travel we went on a coach to Disneyland from LV and back in 1 day... nightmare:der:

The strip itself is around 4 to 5 miles long in its entirity but the main spread seems to be Tropicana BLVD down to Sahara BLVD which takes in all the main hotels, NYNY, MGM down to Mirage, Bellagio and Wynn LV. Nice to leisurley walk down in November as not to hot.

Shops are plentiful The Fashion Show Mall on Strip, Forum Shops at Caesars, Beltz Fashion mall (ok) Shops at Primm Valley used to be worth the trip but now IMHO there are better closer. There is a similar mall down I think Charleston Blvd (will be leaflets everywhere) that is well worth a trip its another outlet mall

As somebody else mention the old vegas at Freemont St is a cool night trip all the old vegas casinos and back in the day these were the guys that did bury you in the desert! Check out Binions Horseshoe with $1 million dollars in a glass case. Ted Binion was murdered check out his story!

The strip is a nightmare to drive down sooo busy and soo many traffic lights but well worth it if youre not driving....

Anything else feel free to ask....

Oh cabs we always get collected at the airport (we have child car seats at our friends) and then we get a car from National (they deliver to the house) so I have never took a cab from the airport.. have used them up and down strip and not that dear.. you are at the end nearer the airport so shouldnt be that dear....

They will prob have the xmas decs aroubd which always seems weird to me... down Sahara they have a big Santa thing with snow(!), reindeers etc typical LV OTT but seen as you dont have the kids probably not worth bothering! (Lucky you!!!)

KRYSIA0508
1st August 2007, 08:40
OH and I are going in September for our wedding anniversary (31st - where has the time gone?) so all this info has been great, thanks.
Are the evenings cool - will we need to take warm sweaters etc?

maemaesmummy
1st August 2007, 09:03
Yes towards Autumn it does loose the excessive heat so would take a cardi... although the way the weather has been it could go either way... right now its vv hot (more than the norm) so hard to say... we have been in September and was over in San Diego for a few days and was a good 20 degrees warmer than LV (when in the summer its the other way round!)

Its nice though when it isnt too hot even though its a dry heat not humid it still make sit hard work walking anywhere as its soo hot (although the margaretas help!!)

orlando
3rd August 2007, 12:33
Bubbler, am just about to book for Vegas myself for next year when the August mailings come.
Could you please advise me as to the actual price you have to pay? In other workds, do you pay for the airport tax and supplements with deals, or do you have to pay for them seperately?
Just trying to figure out how much I need as i want to get some days out tokens for the kids this month to, but don't want to undercut deals for Vegas, if you know what I mean?
Thanks :)
Also, was thinking about the Bellagio, as my Mum stayed there last year and she said it was out of this world!
If I don't have enough though, which would you go for Treasure Island or NYNY? Any body any suggestions?

maemaesmummy
3rd August 2007, 13:26
I prefer TI to NYNY but really any of the main strip hotels are fab.. lets face it just how much time are you gonna spend in your room?!!!!

Raffles
3rd August 2007, 14:30
If you hit Vegas midweek when there are no conventions in town, you can stay at a luxury five-star like Bellagio or the Venetian or Wynn for so little money (comparatively speaking) that you'd be a fool not to, quite frankly. It is WELL worth an extra few pounds or so a night over Circus Circus or one of the other dumps on the strip. Hotels that would cost you ?300+ per night anywhere else can be snapped up for the cost of a UK 3-star.

A quick scout around Expedia for October has Bellagio for ?113 on certain nights, for example, when the Planet Hollywood resort is ?88. You'd never spend a better ?25 in your life than upgrading to Bellagio ....

cerys
3rd August 2007, 14:41
Has anyone been to Vegas and done one of these to the Grand Canyon? I fancy the works so want to see Hoover Dam etc; land on the Canyon floor and perhaps have a boat ride etc.

I am not sure whether to book directly with Virgin or when I get there. There seems so many tour companies to choose and the Virgin prices seems fairly competitive so I wonder if it's easier to go with who they recommend.

Anyone have any suggestions?


I have been on a helicopter tour of the Grand Canyon, it was amazing, would highly reccommend to anyone. We booked before we went with this company www.papillon.com
The ride was excellent and so too was the pilot. We had a champagne lunch included in the price.

orlando
4th August 2007, 14:22
If you hit Vegas midweek when there are no conventions in town, you can stay at a luxury five-star like Bellagio or the Venetian or Wynn for so little money (comparatively speaking) that you'd be a fool not to, quite frankly. It is WELL worth an extra few pounds or so a night over Circus Circus or one of the other dumps on the strip. Hotels that would cost you ?300+ per night anywhere else can be snapped up for the cost of a UK 3-star.

A quick scout around Expedia for October has Bellagio for ?113 on certain nights, for example, when the Planet Hollywood resort is ?88. You'd never spend a better ?25 in your life than upgrading to Bellagio ....

Totally agree with you about the Bellagio, and yes I would go with that if I was just booking with expedia. But as I am using my clubcard deals vouchers, may need to be a bit more choosy. That's why I was thinking about the T.I or NY.NY instead.
Any more tips about best times to go would also be appreciated. We were going to go in March for our anniversary, but are a bit more flexible now.

bubbler
4th August 2007, 16:46
Bubbler, am just about to book for Vegas myself for next year when the August mailings come.
Could you please advise me as to the actual price you have to pay? In other workds, do you pay for the airport tax and supplements with deals, or do you have to pay for them seperately?
Just trying to figure out how much I need as i want to get some days out tokens for the kids this month to, but don't want to undercut deals for Vegas, if you know what I mean?
Thanks :)
Also, was thinking about the Bellagio, as my Mum stayed there last year and she said it was out of this world!
If I don't have enough though, which would you go for Treasure Island or NYNY? Any body any suggestions?

About paying for it: I'd ring and get a quote before your vouchers come. Fuel supplements etc seem to have gone up and I had weekend supplements on top of brochure prices. If you get a quote you can then just ring back and pay for it when you are ready.

Basically the guy I had do the booking for me took all the vouchers I had off of everything, including fuel supplements. They have to run all clubcard orders past their supervisor but there wasn't a problem. All I had to do was pay about ?150 towards it. They made me pay the full deposit of ?120 each person and will refund anything I have overpaid once they have processed the vouchers.

EVERGREEN
7th August 2007, 04:21
Hi - you will love LV. We have been to the grand Canyon on a small plane and the helicoptor. Must admit prefered the plane seemed to see a lot more and more of the canyon. Although its great to have lunch at the bottom of the Canyon on the helocoptor ride.

The helicoptor ride over Vegas at night is the must do trip. Its cheap compared to other trips - I think $64 and it is only 10 minutes but is absolutely brilliant.

Try buffet lunch or dinner at the Wynn - out of this world.

We saw Celine Dion - she was good, but the best show we saw was Tom Jones and I must admit we weren't great Fans of him, but the show was great and he was a great performer.

Whatever you do you will love LV - we have been 4 times now and enjoyed every trip.

ceejay2005
19th February 2009, 05:53
Best show in Vegas is Free which is the Bellagio fountains, and it will take you a week just visting all the hotels which you have to see because most are so outrageous. Hilo Helicopter tours (http://paradisecopters.com/hilo.php)

bev127
19th February 2009, 17:36
came back from vegas27 jan 09.at airport there are shuttle/mini buses only $6-$8per person to the strip.we stayed mgm grand .it was our first time there and the size of hotels is unbelievable,there is a lion habitat in mgm.we saw tom jones show, got tickets at the coke outlet along the strip there half price for lots of different shows and also discount food bills.we did the grand canyon by bus booked at the ticket outlet by the coke shop,it was a long day but worth it .If you like dolphins, lions tigers etc visit the secret garden in the mirage,we spent a lot of time walking along looking in each hotel because they all have there own theme. there is a bus the deuce that goes along the strip $7for a 24 hr ticket you can get on and off whenever, it also takes you right the way to freemont street, about half hour ride depend traffic.

Gavvy
19th February 2009, 21:07
I booked with Papillon, there is an offer on with travelzoo at the moment for $60 off, they picked us up in a limo took us to their own airport and flew to the grand caynon, had breakfast on the canyon floor and then flew back with a tour of the strip on the way. It was fantastic and I can highly recommend them, they were very good value too compared to what the others were charging.

jdizon
20th July 2009, 08:06
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