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Khufu
19th November 2007, 19:04
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jenchin
19th November 2007, 20:47
It sounds lovely to me. :clap2:

Congratulations

Khufu
19th November 2007, 20:57
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siennahue
19th November 2007, 21:03
Got room in a suitcase for a stowaway? :D - Joking aside it sounds wonderful you should have a fabulous time :)

Sienna

Shimmer
19th November 2007, 21:03
Me - you forgot my invite :(

Shimmer
19th November 2007, 21:05
Got room in a suitcase for a stowaway? :D - Joking aside it sounds wonderful you should have a fabulous time :)

Sienna

Good grief great minds & all that :D:D

siennahue
19th November 2007, 21:09
Good grief great minds & all that :D:D


Just shows how jealous we are :D:D:D

bluesue34
19th November 2007, 21:16
Sounds great, not expecting you to change your location but this is what I did.

Flew to Singapore for 3 nights, then went onto Sydney for 5 nights (stayed in Manley), then to Ayers Rocks for 3 nights and then onto my favourite place Port Douglas (Queensland) for 9 nights, this is where we got married on the beach. I loved every minute of it and can't wait for the day that Mr T can pay for me to revisit. I had to pay myself first time round!

Congrats by the way!

Shimmer
19th November 2007, 21:21
Holiday insurance that covers deals - if applicable.

Polo
19th November 2007, 21:30
Quebec is a lovely city, if you can do it, I'd highly recommend it - we went last year and it was lovely - very old style french. We stayed in a fabulous B&B opposite quebec city, you had to get the ferry boat across - wonderful views of the city so worth doing even if you aren't staying on the island (I think it was an island-or might just be the other side of the river!). If you are interested I can probably dig out the B&B details.

We've never driven in Canada, but found public transport really easy to get around on, and if you book rail/bus tickets in advance you can get good deals. Saying that theres only two of us, so it might be cheaper to drive?

We loved niagara falls - went there on our honeymoon and been back since, think its either a love it or hate it place! Don't bother with the american side though, as nothing there and took us ages to get through the security - thought we were mad for wanting to go over just for a coffee!
Try and visit Niagara on the lake too, very pictureseque village with an old fort - lots of nice walks too. Also a christmas shop.... Ah, and you must go on a winery tour, hic hic. And sample some ice wine, the grapes are picked off the vines whilst still frozen-think they must be frozen for 4 days continuously - makes it expensive but its a very syrupy dessert wine-lovely. Most canadian wine isn't exported, but its very nice and you see lots of small wineries dotted about, most are family run so will welcome you with open arms.

Right, my post is probably nearly as long as dom's posts, so I'm gonna close now, but feel free to ask away, we're hoping to emigrate to canada asap, as love it out there! (As you can probably tell!)

Cookie Monster
19th November 2007, 21:42
Khufu, it sounds wonderful, please take me!! When do you go? xx

Polo
19th November 2007, 21:42
Oh and meant to say congratulations!!

sullieb
19th November 2007, 21:58
We loved niagara falls - went there on our honeymoon and been back since, think its either a love it or hate it place!

First of all congratulations, second of all I hope that I don't get flamed for this but you have asked people for their opinions so I can be as honest with you as possible.

My OH and I went travelling (luxury style I might add before you get visions of two young backpackers staying in hostels) around Canada and USA for seven months two years ago. We were going to get married with Virgin, the same wedding package as yourself at Niagra UNTIL by chance my OH mentioned it at one of his work Regional Management Meetings when one of the other Managers said to him "You do know that Niagra is just like Blackpool don't you?". No we didn't, this absolutely shattered by plans but to this day I remain grateful and thankful to this man!

I did a lot of research and found that Niagra really wasn't somewhere that we wanted to get married. We went back to the drawing board and got married in New England, it was absolutely 110% perfect!

We obviously went to Niagra Falls as part of our honeymoon and the falls are truly a wonderful sight and not to be missed but turn your back on the falls and it is just like being in Blackpool!

I do not wish to offend anyone here, but I think that Blackpool is great for a day out but tacky and this goes for Niagra. I wouldn't have wanted to be out there in my wedding dress, to me apart from having fantastic photos that would have been it!

As for the rest of your itinery - great, Canada is an easy place to drive and get around in, Toronto is a nice city and Quebec is gorgous and well worth a visit, we went there in June of this year.

You do realise the drive to Florida is one hell of a drive don't you, not being patronising but that is a lot of time in the car!

I hope I haven't put a damper on things but I remain grateful for knowing this bit about Niagra before booking our wedding, we wondered why it was so much cheaper than other locations in the Virgin book and when we got there we knew why.

Have a great time whatever you decide!

Polo
19th November 2007, 22:04
Hey Sullieb, thats what I meant, you do either love it or hate it. Its like marmite! I'm not going to flame you for having an opinion!

We loved the falls, but found the main strip a bit much - and all the heart shaped jucuzzis in the hotel rooms!! Some of them looked (from the pictures outside the hotels!) like they were part of a low budget porn film...

We stayed at the Sheraton fallsview which was overlooking the falls and about 15-20min walk / short taxi ride away from the hubbub. We didn't bother with any of the attractions other than the falls, tunnels behind the falls...

Khufu
19th November 2007, 22:07
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Khufu
19th November 2007, 22:11
Khufu, it sounds wonderful, please take me!! When do you go? xx

THe plan is to go in May as checking temp it wasn't too cold in Niagara or too hot in Orlando.

We have been together as if we were married forever, and always said it didn't matter (and it doesn't really) but since I've been planning this I'm so into the idea and it feels really right to get married and I want it to be perfect.

The other tension is my OH hates the idea of flying and it took 10 years to get him as far as France on a boat! So I want this to be absolutely perfect, I'm open to all suggestions, and am ready to go back to the drawing board/ incorporate any comments/ideas.

Cookie Monster
19th November 2007, 22:20
Khufu, I can't comment on the place as I haven't been but it sounds wonderful. The travel agent knew what you wanted, and normally their advice is great (they have lots of feed back from lots of different people)
I think it great the OH is willing to fly for you................ now that's love!!!!! xx

Polo
19th November 2007, 22:20
Hi Khufu
I don't know what to suggest really, we liked the falls, only stopped there for a couple of days each time which was enough, and as said before we avoided the gimmicky (sp?) area behind the falls. Last time we went they were just finishing building a super casino, so it depends what you want to do.

Having been to Blackpool too I'd agree the clifton hill area is similiar with Ripley Believe it or not, Dinosaur park amongst other things..... but this might be good to keep the kids amused? They are very strict though and no under 21's in the casino area - I left my passport in the safe at the hotel and they wouldn't let me in! No way I look under 21!

Can't comment on the hotel as not stayed there, and don't recall it.

sullieb
19th November 2007, 22:23
suillieb I really welcome your input, I have this image of it being very romantic in front of the falls I have wondered about them being allowed to build ugly hotels next to the top and things though, so am interested to hear your opinion. I'd rather know now than do it wrong. i do love Blackpool but only in a we're off for a tacky weekend, where your feet stick to the floor way, not in a romantic, it took us 17 years of living together wedding way! Think there's some more research to do before booking! I have got a bit wrapped up in this idea, and the detail of the plan wihtout the bigger picture stuff.

Inputs people?

Thankyou for considering my opinion, I was worried about posting because of upsetting your plans but after the initial upset I was caused when my OH came home from work to tell me about Niagra I was sooooo releaved that we didn't book it.

Your idea of the romanticness of the falls was mine exactly, I do not feel that it is this at all. As I say the falls are beautiful but it will be full of people standing around gawping at you, it is not in a secluded area as on might think.

We too stayed in the Sheraton Hotel which you couldn't fault but I wouldn't have even wanted to walk from my hotel to the falls in my wedding dress.

Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with Blackpool or Niagra if you like that sort of thing but to me places like that are good for a weekend of "fun" not your special day.

It's been a few years since I looked at the Virgin Book but what other places to they still offer?

sullieb
19th November 2007, 22:26
I left my passport in the safe at the hotel and they wouldn't let me in! No way I look under 21!

This made me laugh, I was there celebrating my 28th Birthday and they wouldn't let me in because I didn't have any ID and the lovely younger than me chap said no way did I look 21 - who needs Olay?

Polo
19th November 2007, 22:27
The other thing to remember is if you are getting married by the falls, aside from the gwapers, is that the falls is loud, and theres drift/mist too - shouldn't be too chilly in May but something else to consider?

sullieb
19th November 2007, 22:28
The travel agent knew what you wanted, and normally their advice is great (they have lots of feed back from lots of different people)

This is very true but if you don't ask the right questions or they haven't actually been there then you don't always get the answers that you want.

If they knew that you were looking at alternative places but still booking with them then that might be a different matter altogether.

Polo
19th November 2007, 22:30
This made me laugh, I was there celebrating my 28th Birthday and they wouldn't let me in because I didn't have any ID and the lovely younger than me chap said no way did I look 21 - who needs Olay?

:D Thinking about it I was probably only 22! So perhaps I did look younger.....
The daft thing was we only wanted to use the cash machine, can't remember the whole story now, but the ones on clifton hill were the wrong sort and we needed the ones that where locked up in the casino!

Cookie Monster
19th November 2007, 22:30
This is very true but if you don't ask the right questions or they haven't actually been there then you don't always get the answers that you want.

If they knew that you were looking at alternative places but still booking with them then that might be a different matter altogether.

True, Sullieb. I know that we all want it to be perfect for Khufu. I haven't been, wish I had so I could offer some advice. I am so excited for her, as a romantic I want it to be perfect. (never thought of the noise from the waterfall but makes sense) xx

obscure
19th November 2007, 22:33
Hi Khufu

Firstly congrats on your upcoming wedding.

I have been to N.Falls and was very disappointed by how touristy/tacky it was. Definitely a Marmite effect (thanks for the quote Polotoo)! Niagra on the Lake is lovely though, it is on the American side and is a small town with nice restaurants, shops and cafes. A lovely lake to! We really regretted not staying there instead, it is only about 20min drive from the Falls.

I used to live in the US and have been to both, car hire in both places is a definite yes in my opinion. However, make sure you have full insurance and collision waivers etc, this can add up to more per day than the basic car hire as most Americans drive hire cars under their own car insurance so only visitors buy insurance with the rental. However, costs can very soon run into $1000's for any damage so I think it is worth the outlay, particularly given medical costs and litigation.

No intention to pee on the bonfire but I was very suprised by N.Falls and the videos etc dont show just how built up it is and how close hotels are to the falls. Also very very busy.

All the best, I am sure whatever you chose will become a wonderful memory

sullieb
19th November 2007, 22:36
True, Sullieb. I know that we all want it to be perfect for Khufu. I haven't been, wish I had so I could offer some advice. I am so excited for her, as a romantic I want it to be perfect. (never thought of the noise from the waterfall but makes sense) xx

I agree completely, my wedding was literally like something from a fairytale book, there was only me and my OH there, we had previously had to cancel our earlier wedding of two years previous because I was terribly ill so our big day meant the world to us. I was treat like a Princess for the whole day and wouldn't change one minute of it but I know that it is only my opinion but I think that Khufu will find very few people that will hand on heart say that Niagra is the most romantic setting for a wedding because it isn't.

Cookie Monster
19th November 2007, 22:36
I did 5 days in Las Vegas and the rest in Hawaii for my honeymoon. I get bored on holiday and like 'doing', I can't sit and sunbathe. Hawaii was nice, too quiet for me, but Vegas was something else (have been 3 times now)
Your vacation is whay YOU make it.......... location is important but the company is even more so!!!

Khufu
19th November 2007, 22:39
There is possibility on reasonably same itenary of getting married at teh national park at Banff, which does look beautiful, or in Orlando - which we (read I ) initially rejected as it felt a bit tacky.

I'm so glad I haven't booked now

Polo
19th November 2007, 22:40
Niagara on the lake is great, we stayed there for a couple of night too - although I'm pretty sure (unless theres two?) it was on the Canadian side, in fact, I know we'd didn't go over the border as I'd remember those security queues! Would highly recommended going there, its also the main street pictured at the end of the its a wonderful life! (although I've not seen the film).

Its a toughy, as depends on what your children are going to do, on the plus side theres lots of things to do at the falls - but if neither of them are interested, or you want to be somewhere more exclusive I'd say go elsewhere. We found that a couple of nights at the falls itself was enough.

If you do go, you have to go to the Skylon http://www.skylon.com/, we've been there twice for dinner and ice-wine cocktails, very expensive but worth every penny! We went in the evening when the falls were illuminated and enjoyed it much more than the meal at the CN tower in toronto. Bit disorientating though, as went to the loo, and came back to find my table had moved - and it wasn't just the wine that caused it!!

sullieb
19th November 2007, 22:40
I did 5 days in Las Vegas and the rest in Hawaii for my honeymoon. I get bored on holiday and like 'doing', I can't sit and sunbathe. Hawaii was nice, too quiet for me, but Vegas was something else (have been 3 times now)
Your vacation is whay YOU make it.......... location is important but the company is even more so!!!

Once again agree completely, did Vegas, again another place on the maybe destination for weddings, looked into marrying in the Bellagio but the way we had planned our trip Vegas was near the end and I feared not being able to fit into my wedding dress :D. However, once again when visiting Vegas I was pleased that we hadn't chosen it as a wedding destination. Loved the place but not for my wedding.

Now, Hawaii, have been twice and loved it, we found quite a lot of things to do to keep us occupied, didn't want to get married there because I had been before but my OH hadn't and we wanted it to be "new" for both of us.

Polo
19th November 2007, 22:42
There is possibility on reasonably same itenary of getting married at teh national park at Banff, which does look beautiful, or in Orlando - which we (read I ) initially rejected as it felt a bit tacky.

I'm so glad I haven't booked now

Go for BANFF!!! God you are going to get me going on another long post now!
Again a little commercial but less so than Niagara, and you can also visit Lake Louise and Jasper which are amazing - you will definately need to hire a car though!

Khufu
19th November 2007, 22:42
Reflecting on this makes me realise, I want to see the falls and have since being very small, and I took that bit of journey as read that it would be romantic, like in an Encyclopedia picture of Falls, I certainly want to go there and have a look, but maybe somewhere off teh beaten track would be better for the wedding. It will be a very intimate affair, with just me, him and our two lovely daughters

siennahue
19th November 2007, 22:42
Khufu, with all thats been said is it worth closing your mind to what you've planned for a few mins and looking at the virgin wedding info online again with a fresh mind, perhaps look at the caribbean as well as USA?

I've not been to any of these places as an adult so I can't help you at all - sorry - but I agree with the others, we are just thinking of what would be perfect for you but only you will know what that is. (whatever it is, I'm still jealous :D )

Sienna

sullieb
19th November 2007, 22:45
There is possibility on reasonably same itenary of getting married at teh national park at Banff, which does look beautiful, or in Orlando - which we (read I ) initially rejected as it felt a bit tacky.

I'm so glad I haven't booked now

I think that quite a few people on here have either got married or been to a wedding in Orlando so I think that you could get some really good advice on that location. We are off there in April next year (for the third time) and love the place but know nothing about the weddings!

Don't know about the National Park at Banff so cannot help on that although it does look lovely, we are going to Calgary, Banff and Edmonton next July for the Calgary Stampede and agree that Banff looks very romantic.

Khufu
19th November 2007, 22:46
Right off to do some research into Banff!

Khufu
19th November 2007, 22:47
and a start from scratch not commited to anything look at Virgin weddings!

Cookie Monster
19th November 2007, 22:47
Khufu, I don't envy you having to organise this............. it's so hard!! Vegas was great fun, but I didn't get married there. I can imagine that you want some fantastic / dramatic backdrop or scenery for the actual wedding?

sullieb
19th November 2007, 22:51
and a start from scratch not commited to anything look at Virgin weddings!

I was so worried about upsetting you but I'm glad I spoke up, I know that I don't know you but from just what you have said about waiting so long to get married and wanting it to be special I know that you want it to be perfect.

Not being Miss Pokey Nosey but if I can offer any other advice on any other locations in USA/Canada then just give me a shout. I am actually away on holiday from tomorrow until Friday, going to Disneyland Paris so will probably miss all your exciting arrangements but wish you lots of love and luck on your journey to find the perfect place!

Cookie Monster
19th November 2007, 22:53
Have a fab holiday Sullieb, will chat when you get back. Enjoy!!

Khufu, take your time deciding. I am sure that it will be a wonderful moment, where ever you tie the knot!!

Polo
19th November 2007, 22:54
We liked banff, we were there at the start of the ski season, so very busy.... think we only stayed one night and then moved onto Lake Louise, which was less crowded - the highway between Lake Louise and Jasper is amazing - its the most pictureseque highway in north america, and theres frozen waterfalls - water cascading out of rocks - lovely lovely views up and down the mountains - and the Athabascar glacier. Jasper was a very pretty old style town, they only have (or at least then) one bus in a week and the train out.

Ahhh...... I love canada, can't wait to go back!

sullieb
19th November 2007, 22:57
Have a fab holiday Sullieb, will chat when you get back. Enjoy!!


Thanks Cookie, I should really be in bed, we leave at 4.30am but I'm toooo excited!

Last time we went to Disney Paris it was for Bonfire Night a couple of years ago and it was fab so this time is for Christmas theme so I cannot wait!

Polo
19th November 2007, 22:59
http://www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/ab/banff/index_e.asp You've probably already found it, but heres the official site for Banff National Park.

We also went on the Gondola http://www.banffgondola.com/ which was a little scarey - but you can hike up the mountain if you prefer! Amazing views!

We ran out of time, or maybe it was money.... but we wanted to visit the springs http://www.fairmont.com/BanffSprings/?cm_mmc=icppc-_-Branded-BSH%20-%20Banff%20Springs%20-%20Canada-_-google-_-banff+springs+hotel - also spent the first few nights of our honeymoon at the fairmont in vancouver so can vouch for their standards -amazing!

Have you thought about Vancouver? Its a lovely city with things to do, and a great backdrop too.....

sullieb
19th November 2007, 23:01
Have you thought about Vancouver? Its a lovely city with things to do, and a great backdrop too.....

Ooohhh yes Vancouver, lovely city, I don't suppose that Virgin offer a wedding destination of Stanley Park, stunning views!

Hey Polotoo we could write a book together on Canada!

obscure
19th November 2007, 23:03
Niagara on the lake is great, we stayed there for a couple of night too - although I'm pretty sure (unless theres two?) it was on the Canadian side, in fact, I know we'd didn't go over the border as I'd remember those security queues!

I think you are right, thinking back we came down to Niagra and out through to the US to fly home.

Polo
19th November 2007, 23:04
Ooohhh yes Vancouver, lovely city, I don't suppose that Virgin offer a wedding destination of Stanley Park, stunning views!

Hey Polotoo we could write a book together on Canada!

We could! :canada: (I knew I'd seen a smilie for canada!)
Its so nice to be able to help, I'm normally too late with codes and things, so this is one thing I feel I can assist with!

Enjoy Eurodisney Sullieb, have a great break!

Polo
19th November 2007, 23:08
But we've probably confused poor Khufu further though.... sorry!

Thanks for clearing that up obscure - thought there might have been two places for a second! Which is confusing..... but so many canadian cities have the same names as our cities, its easy to be confused!

Beej
19th November 2007, 23:50
I've been to Niagara and have to agree with most of what has been said on here, tho' I know nothing about getting married there. The falls are spectacular and if you stay near the falls and the gorge it is really beautiful, but the town itself is very tacky and very Blackpool. Niagara on the Lake is lovely very pretty. I wouldn't go to the US side of the falls again, not as good as the Canadian side.

Cookie Monster
20th November 2007, 20:52
Khufu, are you any nearer to making a decision? xx

Khufu
21st November 2007, 14:32
No, been talking to everyone I know in the whole world and am very confused now - I will keep you all informed though!

Cookie Monster
21st November 2007, 14:41
Khufu, I am so excited for you, take your time and you will find your dream destination!!

Angel
21st November 2007, 14:50
I actually got married in Niagara-on-the-Lake last year and it was a beautiful setting!

We stayed in the Ramada Plaza hotel (minolta tower) which was overlooking the Niagara Falls, although we very much enjoyed our stay in Niagara, we were very glad that we did not get married there. Niagara-on-the-Lake was a 30 minute Limousine ride from our hotel. The photo's were taken at Niagara-on-the-Lake, and then at Oakes Garden Theatre and we also had a couple of photo's taken by the Falls.

Our decision was made on the basis that we felt a Niagara Falls wedding would be similar to a Las Vegas style wedding (and we have nothing against Las Vegas style weddings it is just not for us), since there are plenty of wedding chapels in Niagara which are very commercialised and not particularly expensive.

If I can be of any further help you are welcome to PM me.

Polo
21st November 2007, 20:30
Ah Angel, that sounds like a really good compromise, niagara on the lake is lovely, and by doing it that way you get the best of both worlds.

Sorry to have confused you Khufu.....its so difficult to advise you, as I know what we would have liked, but everyone is different and that whats makes the world go round.....would be boring if we all wanted the same thing.....

I said to one of my friends who had all sorts of family rows in the run up to her wedding, at the end of the day, whats important is that you are there, your bloke is there and you make a commitment to each other, yes the venue is factor, but you and him can overcome problems like that, and its not the main thing about your wedding day - the main thing is celebrating your love for each other - with those that you care about by your side.

Angel
22nd November 2007, 10:47
Have you thought about Vancouver? Its a lovely city with things to do, and a great backdrop too.....

I agree, Vancouver is a beautiful city. I know that Grouse Mountain (http://www.grousemountain.com/) is somewhere where wedding ceremonies have taken place. I think you are spoilt for choice in Canada!